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1-2-1

Tuesday, 02 March, 2004

On Friday I was meeting up with a girl for the first name and she told me, “I've never met up with anyone before.” By “meet up”, we were referring to the one-on-one thing that we do on campus: meet up with someone every week to talk, study the Bible and pray. Richard calls it the “bread and butter” of ministry because, in doing it, you often start to see people change and grow in their desire to serve Jesus. Anyway, I suspect that this girl that I was meeting with for the first time was a bit sad about the fact that no one had asked her before. I think that is a common feeling—I know because I think I had it too. When I was at Uni, no one ever asked to meet up with me one-on-one. I went to weekly leaders' meetings for the Bible study I was co-leading (though, back then, I had no idea what “co-leading” actually meant) and for a couple of weeks, my friend Bec and I met up to read the Bible, but it was sad that no one ever asked me. In retrospect, I can understand why. There are stacks of students who could all benefit from meeting up but the staff team is small and limited in time and abilities. I am currently meeting up with about four or five girls at the moment (with one I might have to stop meeting when she finds a job that takes her away from campus; with another, I'm doing a once-a-month thing because she's no longer on campus either). I also meet up with Amanda, the staffworker who is training me. There are stacks of girls I could probably meet up with (and almost wish I could) but then I'm only part-time and I only do the equivalent of two days. Still, it pains me because I know that the faculties I work with (Arts and Creative Arts) would really benefit from having a girl working for them full-time. Aargh! This is the tension of paid work and ministry and why we need more people to be doing the latter or paying people to do the latter!!
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>>>back then, I had no idea what “co-leading” actually meant”

Posted by luke on 02 March, 2004 3:11 PM

*sniff* nobody ever offered to meet up with me either! I tried to take it like a compliment - maybe they think I’m okay spiritually, and don’t need the extra guidance??!!

Are there more male than female staffworkers?

7 guys to 6 girls. But, of the guys, 3 are senior (1 full-time, 2 part-time) and 4 are trainees (all 4 are full-time) and, of the girls, who are all trainees, 2 are full-time and 4 are part-time (including me). So you can see the imbalance there.

I neglected to mention in my post that often people are selected to do 1-2-1 because they show potential for ministry and therefore are worth training up. Which is a great thing. However, it means that I probably showed no potential for ministry when I was at Uni (so true!)

Luke: Co-leading means helping the leader in doing other things like observing group dynamics, taking care to look after the other members of the group in ways that the leader cannot, giving feedback to the leader about the group (both about the group dynamics, how people in the group are going ... perhaps asking a clarifying question if the question that the leader has put to the group doesn’t elicit much of a response), etc, keep track of the time and letting the leader know when there’s only 10 mins to go (enough time to pray!). It’s a pretty important role once you know what you’re doing.

:( no potential here either obviously!

Hidden potential, Deb! wink Like me.

I always thought of you as one of the more mature ones at uni smile

I reckon people should head into full-time ministry is because if they did full-time “secular work” it would leave them too tired for ministry. But I guess that assumes that “work” isn’t “ministry” (I’ve been thinking about work and ministry lately...actually I think I think about it quite often!).

Posted by Elsie on 05 March, 2004 1:12 AM

“Aargh! This is the tension of paid work and ministry and why we need more people to be doing the latter or paying people to do the latter!!”

Perhaps, although there are advantages to being discipled by someone like yourself. See http://www.mawamfc.org/articles/discipledby.htm

Posted by Alan in London on 06 March, 2004 8:57 AM

Good points, Alan; we really do need both. It’s just that the work of the kingdom can happen faster when more people are doing it full-time.

Elsie, I was only more “mature” because I was OLD!! ;P

...which does beg the question, Karen, “What exactly is the work of the kingdom?”.

I used to think it was Colossians 1:28, but does that really mean that everything else we do (I write for a financial software company) is purely to finance Colossians 1:28 work, either in ourselves or paying other people to do it?

Perhaps we need a theology that starts at Genesis 1 rather than one that starts at Matthew 28 and finishes at Acts 28. What do you reckon?

Posted by Alan in London on 09 March, 2004 9:00 AM
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Comment:

/Karen/ said in Enough hours in the day:

Heh! No, I think Kathleen is beating me on that score! ;P

katie said in Enough hours in the day:

I can tell you where that 3.5 hours goes Karen. You watch more DVDs and movies in a week than the average person watches in 2 years. Add it up.

Boyto said in Sleep then:

How did people used to cope? I think a large part of people getting up early was because work was done in the cool of the morning and you went to bed early because it was dark. Now we can stay up comfortably because we have light and warmth and I never do any manual labour so the term “the heat of the day” is largely lost on me.

I guess I am a computer geek. My brain also comes alive at midnight, I stay awake and then feel lousy in the morning so repeat the pattern. But when I can be bothered to get out of bed early, go for a walk around Centennial, I have a productive day and feel wonderful (and then crash early that night). Now just to motivate myself to put down the laptop before bed and get out of bed the next morning before 10am!

philip said in The extent of the problem:

Is it out of the question to sell a lot of books and use the library system? I’m not a big fan of ownership, it ties me to a place and since I move at least once a year its not fun to own anything much.

/Karen/ said in The extent of the problem:

Oh, undoubtedly smile The problem will be where to put all the bookshelves ...

Kathleen said in Genius printing:

Heheh. I have a gorillapod but want something a bit more traditional that I can just set up and take reference photos with without having to resort to unlikely structures of books & chairs or co-opt housemates to take photos of me in awkward positions.

Kathleen said in Enough hours in the day:

Put shoes on while filing.
Learn to write with your non-dominant hand (I can’t write two different things at once but I am learning to write two copies of the same thing).
Write while watching needful things.
Make phone calls while walking home.
smile

Kathleen said in The extent of the problem:

:(
I will miss your house.
Will the bookshelves in the new place still have hidden depths?

Kathleen said in Sleep then:

I still think it is possible to over-schedule, over-plan, over-budget. I find I get more done if I don’t try to break it down exactly (but that’s just me, and I have been known to put one shoe on and then start filing things before finding the other shoe) smile

Kathleen said in Story: 3/11/08-9/11/08:

Whenever I think about curved needles I see that illustration in The Magician’s Nephew of Diggory’s aunt mending a mattress.

philip andrew said in Enough hours in the day:

The drugs knock me out, but I do a very productive 9 hours! Just finished Heifer http://www.heiferhk.org

/Karen/ said in Genius printing:
/Karen/ said in A book for my father:

Oh, I ended up buying some. But we haven’t gotten to that part of the Story yet wink

/Karen/ said in Enough hours in the day:

Kathleen, what do you mean by ‘multitask’? Sleep and shower? Shower and drive? ;P

Philip, how do you manage to squeeze 11 hours of sleep into your day?

Philip said in Enough hours in the day:

sleep 11 hours, write software 9 hours, remainder 4 for everything else.

Kathleen said in A shawl for Amelia:

Yes, it’s very dramatic. I expect to hear violins playing tragically smile

The shawl, of course, is lovely.

Kathleen said in A book for my father:

That looks great - the cover is gorgeous!

And what? No curved needles? smile

K.

Kathleen said in Genius printing:

The first photo (which is cute) reminds me I could use a tripod.

Kathleen said in Enough hours in the day:

Multitask. More hours in the day. Less ability to concentrate but, you know, sacrifices have to be made smile

Elsie said in Genius printing:

Ooh...you could make artwork of your favourite album covers. But that could be breaching copyright. I’d love to have the cover of Blur’s best of album on something…

Elsie said in A shawl for Amelia:

Hurray for dorky poses...heheheh…

Elsie said in A book for my father:

Apologising for posting in your own blog?! Your blog, you’re the boss (I suppose you’re more considerate of your readers than I would be raspberry).

Book looks great.

/Karen/ said in Story: 20/10/08-26/10/08:

What a good idea!

Elsie said in Story: 20/10/08-26/10/08:

Hey, lets visit the Guylian Belgian Chocolate Café before we see Katie Noonan smile

/Karen/ said in Story: 13/10/08-19/10/08:

We signed it a couple of weeks ago.

/Karen/ said in The return of blinks:

Thanks for the tip, Jan! Ooh, more things to knit ...

Jan said in The return of blinks:

Hi Karen,
Almost totally off topic, but here’s a blink back at you!  Hippocampus mittens.

http://www.theinsideloop.com/Issue4/Patterns/hippocampus.html

I like some of the other patterns there too.  I’ve made a couple of things from their summer edition and they turned out well.  This is a UK production.

Kathleen said in Story: 13/10/08-19/10/08:

Any word on the contract?

Mark said in Going home:

Bravo Karen. Superb writing and illustration (especially the high contrast frames).

And yes I noticed the transformers poster on the last page! Nice smile

/Karen/ said in Going home:

Thanks Bec!

Bec said in Going home:

Good job, all of you!  It looks fantastic!

/Karen/ said in Kaboodling:

Heheheh ... Hello Kitty is my muse!

Kathleen said in Kaboodling:

See! I told you they were cute stick-figures - especially when they’re angry!

Bec said in Kaboodling:

Kawaiiiiii!

/Karen/ said in Doodling:

Heheheh ... H, it’s never going to happen! Carpe diem!

Kere: Yes, I own all three of Scott McCloud’s books on comics, but I’ve found Making Comics hard to get through—I guess because, as you say, his primary target audience is artists. But it’s very interesting and helpful all the same.

Haoarn said in Doodling:

Very nice smile

I’ll put this, too, on my list of things to do when I have more time…

Laurel-li said in Art for art's sake?:

Any discussion of the purpose of art is going to huge and unwieldy. And in the end, I suppose, my question would be whether or not it truly matters or if it can be defined in a way that truly encompasses, rather than limiting, the possibilities of art and the roles of the artist. In the end, I don’t have to write (there is no compulsion) but nor do I write for any end purpose (which to me would still involve some form of compulsion). I write because it’s part of who I am, because I love it and would rather do it than not. The process is enough for me, is the enjoyment. It’s not the story or the characters or the theme or message - all of that is about the end product - but the work itself, the way it happens, the word choice and the way its chosen, the way each part works together and how I’m making that happen. It’s said that a work of art is never completed only abandoned and I think that’s true and that this is why: art is about the creation, not about the product.

But that’s just my point-of-view - it’s the importance of art for me - and there are no ends of artists and critics who would disagree with me and do so strenuously. And I don’t know that there is a right or wrong here. For me the end product is… very nice and I’m happy to do something with it. I’d like to think it can express something important to other people and that that message should be to God’s greater glory. Which, as you’ve pointed out, it cannot help but be. But for me it’s about the process which is, to some extent, a view of art for art’s sake.

Well, that was convoluted. I’m planning a wedding! I have an excuse! ;p Hope that made some sense. ^-^

Laurel-li said in Doodling:

Hihi. The book Jon recommended to me when I started my graphic novel is Scott McCloud’s ‘Making Comics’. I found it quite useful, though a lot of the stuff it says are things you would think of yourself given the moment to do so and he’s very much coming from an artist’s point-of-view and seems to assume that the drawing comes before the writing. Still, he had some interesting things to say and in an interesting manner.

I’m very glad you’ve done some drawing for this. I found it interesting to think in the right way for this kind of static visual form, unlike a form like film which is… *tries to find the word* based in action rather than having all the action happening between images. (Why sue one word when ten will do?! ;p ) It takes some getting used to, though I’ve been doing layouts as I write which helped no end.

Anyway, this is alll shiny. ^-^

Kathleen said in Art for art's sake?:

Good discussion and reminder, and I’m looking forward to seeing more of this series smile

It’s something I think about from time to time, and should probably devote a bit more thought to, although I’m approaching art from the point of view of a profession/vocation more than as a vital form of self-expression. But I will often be among people who do, so shouldn’t ignore that aspect.

/Karen/ said in A shawl for Kathleen:

I wonder if there’s a name for that kind of creative/artistic circularity ...

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